
Falchi pellegrini a De Mortel, NL: PA e S2
It now looks like there will be no images from De Mortel this season.
A group of people, representing Alticom (owner of the tower), InterNl (host for the refresh images) the Dutch Bird protection association (host for the live streaming images on Beleef de Lente),
the Birdwatch group Gemert (owner of the nest box on the tower) and the municipality Gemert (of which De Mortel is part) have formed a work-group.
They never consulted with the foundation (owner of the webcams) and are now demanding full control over the webcams and other equipment.
This action was initiated by the Birdwatch group Gemert.
The foundation can not and will not hand over the full control and responsibility of the webcams and supporting equipment. It's as if you buy a beautiful, expensive car and a neighbour then gets to decide who can drive in it.
A counter-proposal is offered but if this newly formed work-group is holding on to their (unacceptable) demands, the foundation is going to remove everything from the tower. The foundation will not allow third parties to use anything that is their property.
So there you have it in a nutshell, not very pretty.
The basic problem is that those involved are all people with an ego that is much too large, all have very short fuses and they all think they are more important than the webcams
and the joy of the many people who watched these Falcons on the Internet!
The fact that the refresh page is off line is also a result of these clashing characters I assume.
Dustie (still mad as hell and very, very sad )
A group of people, representing Alticom (owner of the tower), InterNl (host for the refresh images) the Dutch Bird protection association (host for the live streaming images on Beleef de Lente),
the Birdwatch group Gemert (owner of the nest box on the tower) and the municipality Gemert (of which De Mortel is part) have formed a work-group.
They never consulted with the foundation (owner of the webcams) and are now demanding full control over the webcams and other equipment.
This action was initiated by the Birdwatch group Gemert.
The foundation can not and will not hand over the full control and responsibility of the webcams and supporting equipment. It's as if you buy a beautiful, expensive car and a neighbour then gets to decide who can drive in it.
A counter-proposal is offered but if this newly formed work-group is holding on to their (unacceptable) demands, the foundation is going to remove everything from the tower. The foundation will not allow third parties to use anything that is their property.
So there you have it in a nutshell, not very pretty.
The basic problem is that those involved are all people with an ego that is much too large, all have very short fuses and they all think they are more important than the webcams
and the joy of the many people who watched these Falcons on the Internet!
The fact that the refresh page is off line is also a result of these clashing characters I assume.
Dustie (still mad as hell and very, very sad )
- Giovanna
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Dustie, that's too bad indeed!
Lots of people follow this cam from all over the world, many more than we can imagine.
If you think it could be worthy, you could start a petition.
We all have to be aware that falcon fans can be great and help eachother everywhere they are.
A big hug!

Lots of people follow this cam from all over the world, many more than we can imagine.
If you think it could be worthy, you could start a petition.
We all have to be aware that falcon fans can be great and help eachother everywhere they are.

A big hug!

- São aves cheias de abismo,
Como nos sonhos as há.
- Fernando Pessoa
Como nos sonhos as há.
- Fernando Pessoa
- Gabbiano
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questo è il colmo dei colmi.....ma si può?
Dopo tanti anni che questo nido viene seguito da chissà quanta gente....fare una cosa simile e perchè poi?
Spero tanto che si possa risolvere, l'unione fa la forza....non c'è modo di fare una grande protesta collettiva via internet per boicottare questa iniziativa assurda....
:evil:
Dopo tanti anni che questo nido viene seguito da chissà quanta gente....fare una cosa simile e perchè poi?
Spero tanto che si possa risolvere, l'unione fa la forza....non c'è modo di fare una grande protesta collettiva via internet per boicottare questa iniziativa assurda....
- Nora
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- Iscritto il: gio mar 15, 2007 10:00 pm
- Località: Amsterdam, the Netherlands
Yes, it's a pity we can't see them anymore. :?
But the good news is SuperPa & S2 are still around, and some people visit the site and post live reports with pics.
Like Kuiko, he visits the site pretty often and reports about the peregrines on his website: http://www.xs4all.nl/~kuiperst/ (click the link; click 2010 on the left hand menu; open the box 'Maand'; choose 'verslagen januari 2010' ; click the link of a date; scroll down for pics and often a video)
Yesterday Kuiko visited De Mortel and saw S2 return with a prey. She ate well but didn't want to share with SuperPa



(Thank you Kuiko!)
But the good news is SuperPa & S2 are still around, and some people visit the site and post live reports with pics.
Like Kuiko, he visits the site pretty often and reports about the peregrines on his website: http://www.xs4all.nl/~kuiperst/ (click the link; click 2010 on the left hand menu; open the box 'Maand'; choose 'verslagen januari 2010' ; click the link of a date; scroll down for pics and often a video)
Yesterday Kuiko visited De Mortel and saw S2 return with a prey. She ate well but didn't want to share with SuperPa



(Thank you Kuiko!)



